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Motivations aside, this of course throws up the ultimate question which our politicians remain too paralysed to address: how much longer must all this go on? Are we approaching the end of this transformation? Is change at this pace the new norm? Or only the beginning?

The census provided a wonderful opportunity to address this, and it was, like everything else in this supremely dishonest discussion, wretchedly missed. Perhaps one could put the pertinent question like this: is the fact that "white Britons" are now a minority in their capital city a demonstration of "diversity" as the man from the ONS said? If so, when does it cease to be so? There are London boroughs already lacking in "diversity" because there aren't enough white people around to make them diverse.

But what levels, after all's said and done, do the celebrants of diversity want to get to? What is their ideal target figure? Is a ceiling of 25 per cent white Britons in London — or the country at large — optimal? Or would it be 10 per cent? Or none at all? A final, and perhaps harder, question: how — given the concatenation of claims against them — might "white Britons" ever acceptably argue, let alone complain, about such unspecified or unspecifiable odds?

The answer remains for now that nobody can tell us, and nobody can address this. Here is Self again, speaking to wild applause from his Question Time studio audience:

"The people who line up on the opposition to the immigration line of the argument are usually racists [audience applause] . . . [with an] antipathy to people, particularly with black and brown skins."

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American
March 24th, 2013
3:03 PM
Two of the pro-multicultural arguments you mention ring true on this side of the Pond: (1) "It has always been this way" -- In fact, immigration, both legal and illegal, has been occurring at such historically rapid rates that assimilation is the exception. Rather, the political, special interest and media classes tend to encourage such diversity/lack of assimilation. Miami has been ceded to Latin America; Muslims have gained measurable control of Dearborn, Michigan, and you can find language ghettos in most cities. In earlier immigration waves, people wanted to become Americans and were expected to do so. (2) "There is no American culture." We are "all immigrants." "We are just a mix of different cultures." -- Ha! I know exactly who I am. I am an American. I am very much aware that my rights and attendant responsibilities come from God, not from some man who tries to make rules for others to live by. And I, like others, feel a responsibility to preserve/return to the limited constitutional government our country was founded on. You can't stand by and watch you country die!

Hoolie
March 24th, 2013
11:03 AM
The Western world is ideologically brainwashed by the Liberal Left, essentially an anti-capitalist leftover from the Bolshevik days. These people hate their own skin color. They have some ideal vision in mind of a world in which we will all hold hands and intermarry or integrate somehow, but just because they have such aspirations does not mean immigrants do. On the contrary, sooner or later we will see a Balkanization of not just Britain, but of Western Europe, with the notable exception of the indigenous whites who will be cowering in their basements....

Noneofyourbusiness
March 23rd, 2013
7:03 AM
The twit who said Dubai has 40% immigrants is wrong. The figure is over 80%, so if you get that wrong, what else did you get wrong? On top of that, they only give visas for 2 years that cost at least two months of the average workers wage. No handouts, no passports - EVER - and no free education etc etc. So, the left set the agenda in the 60's and you only show your total ignorance. When the collapse comes - see Cyprus etc, as explained years ago by those "dumb" righties, things will change. Let's have points like NZ and Aus, so we get benefits instead of giving them. All the best then.

hugug
March 21st, 2013
11:03 PM
Get used to it

Bhaskar
March 9th, 2013
3:03 PM
There is a tendency amongst certain sections of the right to believe that immigration and the subsequent changes in demographics is a consequence of some left wing conspiracy perpetuated by New Labour to alter the political landscape of Britain which will make it harder and harder for Tories to win an absolute majority in an election. This is the stuff of fantasy perpetuated by the likes of Douglas Murray, Melanie Phillips and others. As is often the case, the truth is mundane. Global capitalism demands a significant free flow of labour, both highly skilled and unskilled, across national boundaries. Large scale immigration took place under both the Thatcher and Major administrations mainly due to pressure from the labour market. A free market cannot operate efficiently without a flexible labour market where it is easier for labour to relocate from one country to another according to the law of supply and demand. Therefore many successful non Western free market economies such as Hong Kong, SIngapore and Dubai have of late become more multicultural. In fact in Dubai nearly 40% of the population is made of immigrants. Multiculturalism is not just a phenomena in the West. It would be less hypocritical if those obsessed with UK demographics are honest and consistent in their beliefs. Firstly they should oppose unfettered global capitalism, however economically ruinous and secondly they should have the courage to admit that they hanker back to an all white Britain.

Mike L
March 6th, 2013
1:03 PM
Over the past decade as a resident of London I have seen the increase of "diversity" and the decrease of our "non culture". It saddens me that I feel I will need to myself go and live in another country as I cannot see residing here in my own as futureproof anymore. The difference being, I will try and fit in, not ask to be accommodated. Our country has faded away under the personal aspirations of our recent so called political leaders. Leadership requires the ability to do what is right, even if that path contrasts with the current view of a flock of sheep not wanting to stand up!

Geraint
March 5th, 2013
6:03 PM
Glen Ram etc. If the British went out into the world and took it. Were they A) welcomed or B) resisted? If they were resisted would this explain massacres genocides etc the left likes to claim? If they in fact occurred? If they were resisted cannot Europeans resist the current colonisation? If they were not resisted and in fact in places welcomed, then where is the truth in your argument that Britain deserves to be eradicated?

AP
March 5th, 2013
3:03 PM
A country to be serious about itself as a country needs to have strong controls over its borders. Secondly, it needs to have still stronger controls over who are allowed in and in what numbers. Any weakening on these points and the consequences can be quite unpleasant. Britain should act.

Andrew S
March 3rd, 2013
7:03 PM
Has anyone noticed the contradiction when it comes to the principle of consent? On most issues the principle of consent is rightly regarded as sacrosanct. But somehow when it comes to immigration it doesn't matter. The only argument that is put forward is the "two wrongs make a right" argument: that because the British Empire invaded foreign countries without consent, the British people can't now complain about immigrants coming to the UK.

JamesW
March 3rd, 2013
1:03 PM
Ram: what a nasty, vindictive attitude. Immigration policy should be decided in the best interests of the British people, not as a form of punishment. No politician would ever dare use your argument in public of course, although I suspect the attitude exists among the more dishonest sectors of the left. Of course you could be a troll, recruiting for UKIP.

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