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Then there is Stephen Fry. A decade ago, when the Millennium Dome opened, he was one of the main stand-up acts. In front of a crowd of families and people of all ages, he joked: "Good evening ladies, stroke gentlemen, stroke girls and, of course, stroke boys." 

This does not mean that Fry approves of paedophilia. He is simply happy to get a laugh out of it when it suits him. And this is what our new celebrity preaching class can do: make a pronouncement on politics and if you catch them out, remind you that they are not politicians; make claims about history yet they are not historians; make claims about ethics yet not be interested in ethics. 

Clerical classes have existed in all societies. But the version Britain has started to rely on must be the first that not only doesn't expect to hold itself to account, but isn't expected to by anyone else to do so either.

And these people are important not just because of what they say, but because 

 they are what so many young people seek to become. The Pope acknowledged this, asking a young audience to think about celebrity culture and consider whether that was what they would truly like to become.

At the heart of modern Britain is a terrible sickness: nihilism. The Church of England has left a void in the public square. And in this situation, Pope Benedict's visit constituted a striking achievement: he put Christianity, for the first time in many years, firmly back into the centre of the debate in our national life. 

You do not have to agree with the Pope to recognise the force and significance of his arguments. But it would strike me as unwise to pretend that his arguments have no merit simply because they are uttered by a Pope.

As the late Oriana Fallaci said: "If an atheist and a Pope think the same things, there must be something true."

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Patrick
January 4th, 2011
7:01 PM
He probably referred to it as the Holy See for much the same reason that Reuters, the AP and the AFP amongst others continually describe the founder of Islam not as "the Islamic Prophet Muhammad" but simply "The Prophet Muhammad". Why don't you go and get worked up about that rather than the Vatican being referred to a the Holy See? Ah, I remember now, it's because if you offend Christians nothing will happen to you except forgiveness, but if you dare to insult islam then you'll likely find yourself on the receiving end of an IED.

John
November 6th, 2010
8:11 AM
I am an outsider too. Douglas, why as an atheist and non-catholic to you refer to the Vatican as the "Holy See". It is no more "holy" than any other place on the planet. Why? Because it is inhabited by sinners, who like all sinners play all of the usual (even back-stabbing) power games that sinners do everywhere else in the world. The only people who make places Holy are Saints. Who by their presence and actions, or their very real aura of Holiness, imbue the places in which they pray, live and work with a tangibly real Holy Presence. Everything else is more or less ritualized play acting. Plus look who granted the Vatican its now officially legal status. That charming example of humankind Mussolini. What was interesting about the Popes visit to the UK was the entirely predictable essentially group-think fawning stuff written in support of his visit. It was as though all of the responses were written by one person - a kind of church authorized press kit release.

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