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It is now well- known that, representing PIE, he sat on the NCCL’s gay rights sub-committee from the late 1970s until the early 1980s. His book, Paedophilia: The Radical Case (1980), was favourably reviewed by Gay News and other gay publications. This was an era in which discrimination against the gay population was so bad that some would agree to align with the unlikeliest of allies so long as they were being similarly targeted.

Many of those who promoted the rights of the “paedophile”, such as PIE founder Peter Righton, a child protection expert and social care worker, have since been convicted of sexual crimes against children.

I wanted to find out from O’Carroll, a man rarely in the media these days, whether libertarian child abuse revisionism was still alive and well. I discovered that it was. O’Carroll is unrepentant, and sees himself and the likes of Savile as victims of an ongoing moralistic witch-hunt.

“In the 1970s I thought we were going to be embarked upon a journey like the gay people,” he told me when we met in a central London wine bar. “I would have quite liked [to be labelled as] ‘kindly’ because ‘kindly’ . . . relates to the Dutch and German kinder — children. So yes, being intimate, but also being nice with it. “I would say that if someone had sexual relations which were in the realm of what I called earlier the ‘kindly’ sort then that would not be abusive. Although these days one has to be careful because anything you do, no matter how kindly it is, it’s always subject to trauma later on — secondary trauma as a result of society’s hysteria over the whole thing.”

The writer and broadcaster Francis Wheen personally experienced the effects of child sexual abuse. Additionally, he suffered the attempts by PIE and its supporters to claim that the abuse did not happen. In 1968, Charles Napier, who would subsequently become treasurer of PIE, joined the teaching staff at Wheen’s boarding preparatory school, Copthorne, in Sussex.

“Napier was much younger than most of the masters there and he was quite friendly with the children so we quite liked him at first, because he seemed more on our level and not so forbidding,” says Wheen. “He had a little room off the workshop, and he would take us in there and offer us beer and cigarettes.

“I was 11 at the time, and it was incredibly thrilling, rather naughty and exciting. The word ‘grooming’ had never entered our vocabulary at that stage. One day he plunged his hand down my gym shorts and grabbed me, and I pulled his hand off and recoiled, and he then started slightly sneering at me and said, ‘Oh Francis, come on. Don’t be a baby.’ Very clever, tried to make me feel inadequate, to have to prove my maturity by going along with it. Other boys spoke about it. I wasn’t the only one.”

Wheen says that his classmates rarely spoke of Napier’s actions, and as such he was unaware of the sheer scale of abuse prevalent at his school. “Once or twice I would be talking to another boy in the dormitory and he’d say, ‘Did Mr Napier try it on with you? Oh he did with me as well.’ I didn’t have any sense quite how many boys were being abused until years later. I wrote about it occasionally when I became a journalist, and I did tell my parents, only some years later.”

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Kim
August 30th, 2015
11:08 PM
Thank you so much Julie for writing this article. It is so important that someone investigates the nuances and not just sees things in black and white. Your article seems to have already upset someone in the skeptic / debunker / anomalistic brigade. Just remember that whenever they accuse you of being "unscientific" according to their narrow positivist def then it means you are on to something.

James Murray
August 29th, 2015
9:08 PM
The writer loses any credibility when she quotes Judith Jones as a sympathetic viewpoint. Jones and her partner in crime Beatrix Campbell were at the forefront of the sickening false child abuse accusations of the 80's and early 90's: Cleveland, Orkney, Nottingham.

dwpandme
August 28th, 2015
2:08 AM
I don't think I've ever read such a long article that achieves so little. I have to wonder what could possibly have motivated you to compose such a piece when you clearly have neither scientific evidence nor coherently reasoned argument at your disposal. I am not being facetious when I say that after reading the entire article I was left with no clear understanding of the standpoint you are taking on this issue and I don't believe that to be a reflection of my poor comprehension skills. Throughout the article you paraphrase and quote the opinions of academics and experts whose views you clearly don't share. This is good, you're setting up an argument that you wish to criticize, the next step is to reveal the weaknesses and bring to light the inconsistencies that invalidate that argument; however, you don't seem to think that this step is necessary. Instead you imagine that it is enough to suggest that because the implications of the conclusions which evidence and scientific inquiry compel us to draw are problematic and cause you to experience cognitive dissonance, this is itself enough for you to dismissively dispense with all such nonsense without further thought. Unfortunately, by your refusing to apply any faculty of intellect to seriously take on the issues that you raise, you deny me the opportunity to engage in constructive discourse regarding a matter which is of great importance and universal concern.

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