Dialogue

Brown’s Britain is Bankrupt

June 2009

Daniel Johnson: Parliament is supposed to be the guardian of liberty, but it seems rather that its members have been taking liberties. The result is a great upsurge of righteous indignation, a demand for equality in the name of justice. The ruling class, the political class, deserve to be swept away — off to the tumbrils with them! It's a Jacobin mood. Get out the guillotine! 

We can joke about it, but there have been real revolutions. Frank, seeing as you're on the receiving end: how do you see the relationship between liberty and equality?

Frank Field: I don't see it relating to our present discontent at all. I think the last word entering people's heads is equality. I think they're after blood, partly because they're worried about what's happening to the country. I think this is a very good way of punishing people who should have had more foresight, who have landed them in this particular set-up.

DJ: But when a ruling class, as in the case of the French aristocracy and the court and so on, are seen to be decadent, there is a feeling that they deserve just to be replaced, isn't there? And isn't that, however natural and human it may be, ultimately a threat to liberty?

Jeremy Jennings: I agree with Frank. This bout of indignation is very similar to that against bankers. It does relate to a broader feeling that things are going very badly and someone must be to blame. Therefore, you pick on various groups most obviously in the firing line. That's what's really going on.

FF: What's so extraordinary is that we, as politicians, are supposed to be in control of it — when we can't even control our expenses. So in a pretty fundamental way we're demonstrating that though we are the dignified part of the constitution, we can't actually deliver. And we recently had an uprising, totally unexpected by the whips, on the Gurkhas. 

That was a sign of us for once actually being on the side of the public, whereas the public feel they've been foisted with an immigration policy that they've never been consulted about, with which they don't agree. We've now reached the absurd position that we have free access for people from countries who historically fought us, but we're excluding those from the Commonwealth and those who've always stood on the line with us, when things are going wrong.

So I think there's something quite deep-seated going on in the country about these different gangs that compete for power. No one gang is actually giving them an alternative, and I think the public is not apathetic about it. It is angry.

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D. Singh
June 4th, 2009
1:06 PM
Sir – It is suggested that the Equality Bill has very little to do with Class. S.1(1) of the Equality Bill 2009 states: An authority to which this section applies must, when making decisions of a strategic nature about how to exercise its functions, have due regard to the desirability of exercising them in a way that is designed to reduce the inequalities of outcome which result from socio-economic disadvantage. Although a citizen will have no right in private law to challenge any decisions made under that sub-section there will be an option to exercise judicial review proceedings. Administrators who fear that judicial review proceedings may damage their authority’s reputation will apply the provisions in that sub-section robustly thus distorting strategic judgment. The social and economic costs will multiply ultimately to be borne by the taxpayer. In other words class warfare is embedded into this legislation. The negative discrimination provisions apply to the commercial sector in the supply of goods, facilities and services. If I were a Sikh I would request a Muslim architect to design for me a Sikh temple. The Muslim would reject the request on the ground of conscience. I would sue and cash in. The Bill would unleash a tremendous gale of social destruction and give birth to bitterness for generations to come. Have you people learnt nothing from Northern Ireland? S.153 is headed positive action in recruitment and promotion. The provision does in fact permit that which is currently illegal: positive discrimination; selecting someone because they are, say, black for example. If I were a black student why would I want to work hard to achieve good grades knowing that I would be in line for my racial discount in the employment market? The provision is destructive of the education of black children. This provision about positive discrimination (euphemistically called positive action) supplies a legal principle emerging in human rights and EU employment law: ‘Legal inequalities will correct factual inequalities.’ So then the assumption is that negative discrimination is being systematically exercised and there is no other cause for an explanation such as different career choices being exercised by women for example because of having families. This Socialist government is very much like the old South African police: ‘The South African Police would leave no stone unturned to see that nothing disturbed the even terror of their lives.’ Tom Sharpe, Indecent Exposure (1973) Ch. 1

Lord Cabbage
June 6th, 2009
6:06 PM
Crime: Watch the dreadful Streetcops and you will see mostly white males being arrested/persued/harassed. Amusing to know the editorial guidelines for this programme, as they have obviously removed black/asian offenders, and if they were agreed with the Home Office as a condition of access...

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