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But it is problematic to designate the EDL as far-Right, because it is a single-issue pressure group. The only thing that everyone within its loose structure has in common is that they are against Islamic extremism, and that in itself is not necessarily a far-Right cause. The problem, of course, is that an anti-Islamic extremism campaign will attract people who are simply anti-Islam. Although Paul Ray has left the EDL since his infamous talkSPORT interview (with bitter words on his blog for the "pirates" who he claims ousted him), the group is likely to remain attractive to people with his kind of views. 


Pro- and anti-EDL demonstrations in Manchester last month 

In the last month, the EDL has begun to take on a more stable identity. It now has an established leadership and an established message: it is nothing to do with the BNP, and not a political party itself; all races and religions are welcome and in fact wanted for a non-violent pressure group protesting against the influence of Islamic extremism in the UK. The only unsavoury thing that the EDL declares about itself is its affiliation with a body called Casuals Utd, a national federation of football hooligan "firms". But comparing our terraces to their Continental counterparts, football fans in this country, even the hooligan variety, are not particularly racist. The EDL argues that "only a certain sort of people will be willing to face up to the extremists", and this may or may not convince anyone. But the way the right to protest works in this country is that protest groups are taken at their word first, and then their behaviour is subject to scrutiny by the police and the media. From what the EDL says about itself, it is the claim to being non-violent, not the claim to being non-racist, that is the more suspicious.

There is no evidence for the UAF claim that the BNP or some other far-Right agenda is secretly pulling the strings. There is, however, some evidence of a certain amount of casual overlap between the EDL membership and that of the BNP (whose list was leaked to the public last year). The anti-fascism magazine Searchlight has run a series of articles investigating this kind of crossover, and when I talked to Tommy Robinson (a pseudonym), the current leader of the EDL and founder of United People of Luton, I challenged him about them.

"To be honest, my stance all along is that BNP members aren't racist. I can admit that seven years ago I looked into the BNP when I felt that I had no one else I could turn to in my hometown, just to see, because I wasn't aware of all their stances. Like not letting non-white people join — I wasn't aware of that. Like what political party Nick Griffin used to run, i.e. the National Front. 

"With regards to Chris Renton [who was said to have designed an early EDL website], he was a BNP member, he's now resigned from the BNP. One hundred per cent I believe that Chris Renton is not racist at all. He told me clearly that he was not aware that black people couldn't join. He just was worried about Islamic fundamentalism in this country, and they were the only people speaking a language that he could listen to.

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Northants
October 26th, 2010
8:10 PM
Seachlight and HnH reckon Davy Cooling now lives in Daventry and is a member of the BNP. He is not a member of the BNP in Northants

J.bro
June 28th, 2010
11:06 PM
No. The difference between Al Muhajaroon and EDL is that Al Muhajaroon only have 50 people turning up for their protests. EDL has 2,000 and it's growing. It's a street army that can kick off and fuel intolerance. That's why you are getting more so called "lone wolf" white extremists getting arrested for trying to blow things up. The EDL are (to steal a phrase from your friend Ed Hussein) "playing the mood music" for those extremists.

D. Singh
December 3rd, 2009
9:12 AM
Sir It’s a long time since I’ve read a well-balanced article. Amis states: ‘It's a horrible feeling, not being able to criticise a system of thought, and one that is completely alien to our way of life. The feeling disturbs you so deeply when you encounter it that it becomes easy to start considering alarming theories,…’ This occurs because self-censorship is the worst form of oppression. Amis states: ‘But if Christianity did start to become a major theme then the EDL might become more dangerous.’ Why would it become more dangerous? Some of the best dissidents in the East and the West have been influenced by Christianity. For example, the great Russian dissident Alexander Solzhenitsyn and Dr Martin Luther-King Jr in the USA.

Lawrence
November 4th, 2009
11:11 AM
this is the first good piece I have read on the EDL. When they first appeared, I had no idea what to make of them and knew that the British media, Left or Right could not be trusted, the media being an unfunny joke and coming at it from preconceived directions. I thought that investigative political journalism had died in Britain. This article proves otherwise - a breath of fresh air.

Steve Bush
November 4th, 2009
12:11 AM
The article is interesting, but it does show that the EDL was basically started by BNP members, that many of it's members and supporters 'overlap' with the BNP. The EDL leadership and some of its supporters aren't racist - good. But I still don't know why they are protesting, or what they are 'defending' us from. Islamic extremists are an even more tiny minority than the EDL. I can only put it down to the hysteria in the media constantly against islam. I do agree that the tactics of the UAF are bollocks and counterproductive, but that's nothing new, it's forerunner the ANL was similarly shit. How standing behind Police screaming abuse through a megaphone achieves anything I will never know.

Maz Clarke
October 31st, 2009
9:10 AM
To the poster below calling his/herself 'article'. The "myriad Nazi salutes" you mention are simply not from the EDL, yes there have been a few at our protests but they were unfortunate incidents of infiltration by the extreme right intent on hijacking the EDL for their own foul agenda. They are neither wanted nor tolerated by EDL, also a good many of the pictures touted as "Nazi salutes" are well chosen stills from video footage of guys simply waving their arms whilst chanting. If you look, many are obvious due to motion blur. Once you see this for yourself you need to treat the source of such 'evidence' with suspicion. The Harrow mosque protest wasn't EDL in the first place, we need to get that perfectly straight. It was a SIOE protest that had been called off, hence only 15-20 people present, they apparently hadn't received the information regarding the cancellation. Anyone wishing to see the viewpoint of the EDL for themselves is more than welcome to visit our forum. Many who initially came along with an open mind to see the "fascists" for themselves are now highly active members. They come from all creeds and a wider than you would expect section of the political spectrum. Please come over, provided you remain civil you will be made very welcome.

David McDaid
October 31st, 2009
9:10 AM
Excellent, unbiased article. Just the way journalism should be (truthful)! I'd like to see more from you guys so I for one will be a regular reader here. It's so rare to find neutral media these days.

saj
October 31st, 2009
12:10 AM
So just as expected Al Muhajerun not to turn up it has come to pass they have cancelled! no surprise there could it be that they are 'billy no mates'. Al Muhajerun have no support simple as that they are not allowed in any mosques and they are not qulaified islamic scholars they are a dodgy MI5 outfit. However the racist and Islamaphobes have latched on to this tiny bunch of nutters to spread their poison!

Kafir
October 30th, 2009
6:10 PM
Comment by "Article": * have you missed the fact that the saluters were kicked out? * have you missed the fact that many raised arms can look slightly nazi? * did you not see Muslims in the 1000+ strong Harrow mob doing Nazi salutes? and finally, please stop talking about Harrow. It was an SIOE event, nothing to do with EDL. But basically, you already know what you want to believe, so why let these inconvenient facts get in the way? To Louis Amis: finally an accurate article on this topic, well done.

Saj
October 30th, 2009
3:10 PM
What an absolute joke! The ignorance of the writer concerning the Al Muhajerun is laughable! They have no support in the Muslims community whatsoever! They can hardly get a dozen people to March! You've got no idea about how the mosques are run and how much they oppose MI5 Anjum! Fact is Anjum Choudry Al Muhajerun who number LESS THAN 50 nationally at best! are so hated by the UK Muslim community that they have been banned from every mosque and have been chased and beaten up literally since the 1990’s especially in the North and they will never get support from UK Muslims (that’s why you never see them up North but that’s another whole topic altogether). It’s a shame that this has not been publicised and very few people except Muslims are aware of this. People really need to know that the UK Muslim community have been fighting this tiny vociferous Minority for the last 15 years! Out of over a thousand mosques in the country they were only able to preach at one i.e. Finsbury Park Mosque and that was only after they physically beat up the trustees and took it over. Thankfully the mosque is now back with the trustees after successful legal action. That’s why they are always on the streets or talking to the media who lap it all up, Anjum Choudry is not even a trained qualified Islamic Scholar in fact he did law at uni before he became a looney. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1051304.ece Many Muslims believe they are MI5 agents used as a honey trap or agent provocateurs. Ask yourselves this, why is Anjum Choudry never arrested??? Why do high profile MPs call for action against them and then nothing happens and you never hear about it ever again? Why do they only pop up at the most opportune moments cause extreme offence and then disappear again? Why are they on first name terms with the media/journalists? Why are they portrayed as if they have support from and speak for the UK Muslim community? This whole outfit stinks! The EDL are thick! They are plain racist! with their 'paki' chants and Nazi salutes! They are using a single issue like MI5 Anjum to beat a whole community! If they didnt have Anjum they would find another excuse!

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