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Can one believe in evolution and God? Some people of faith and some scientists agree: "No." They are wrong. The theory of evolution says that organisms are related by descent from common ancestors. Over time, organisms change and diversify as they adapt to different environments. Species that share a recent common ancestor are more similar to each other than species whose last common ancestor is more remote. Thus, humans and chimpanzees are, in configuration and genetic make-up, more similar to each other than they are to baboons, elephants or kangaroos.

If humans came about by evolution, then the Bible isn't wrong when it says that humans were created in the image of God.

Science has many other theories besides evolution. The heliocentric theory says that the earth revolves around the sun rather than vice versa. The atomic theory says that all matter is made up of atoms. And astronomy teaches us that the galaxies expand in space and that stars and planets form over time. Scientists agree that the evolutionary origin of plants and animals is a scientific conclusion beyond reasonable doubt. They place it beside such established notions as the roundness of the earth, its revolution around the sun and the atomic composition of matter. That evolution has occurred is, in ordinary language, a fact, not just a theory.

Many Biblical scholars have rejected a literal interpretation of the Bible as untenable because it contains mutually incompatible statements, if they are taken as scientific. The beginning of Genesis presents two different creation stories. Extending through chapter one and the first verses of chapter two is the six-day narrative, in which God creates human beings — both "male and female" — in His own image on the sixth day, after creating light, earth, firmament, fish, fowl and cattle.

In Genesis 2:4, a different narrative starts: God first creates a male human, then plants a garden and creates the animals and only then proceeds to take a rib from the man to make a woman. Which one of the two narratives is correct and which one is in error? Neither contradicts the other, if we understand the two narratives as conveying the same message, that the world was created by God and that humans are His creatures.

There are numerous inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible. For example, in the description of the return from Egypt to the promised land by the chosen people of Israel, not to mention erroneous factual statements about the sun circling the earth and the like. Is the Bible "wrong"?

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Jim Car;spm
May 28th, 2010
1:05 PM
Galaxies don't expand in space. Space itself expands and carries the galaxies along with it. I don't think I'm nitpicking.

D Sutherland
May 28th, 2010
12:05 PM
Shalom Freedman is correct - this is a very weak and easily refuted argument. It makes as much sense as a defence lawyer saying "my client didn't kill the man, it was the bullet from the gun he fired that killed him". If god chose evolution as the mechanism for the unfolding of his creation then he is still responsible for what evolution produced - doubly so if you grant him the omniscience to know how it was going to end up anyway.

richard lewis
May 28th, 2010
11:05 AM
Was this written by a 13 year old as a school project?

Shalom Freedman
May 28th, 2010
9:05 AM
While I am sympathetic to the general claim that there is a need for Religion beyond our scientific understanding, including that of the evolutionary process, I find the argument which makes it here extremely odd. God the Creator is the Creator of All, of things that are good as they are good, and things that are not good as they are not good. Trying to get God off the hook by blaming 'Nature' for the evils of life is ignoring the religious claim that Nature too is the creation of God.

rAMESH rAGHUVANSHI
May 28th, 2010
6:05 AM
Meaning of AVATARA is descent;incarnation of a god.Interesting fact is that Hindu mythology converted evolution in religious dogma.In Hindu mythology the advent to earth of a deity in visible form.Ten Avatars of VISHNU are most celebrated.chronologically as they are appeared as [1] the fish[Mats ya] [2] the tortoise[ Kurma][3] the boar[VARAHA][4]HALF MAN -HALF LION[NARASIMHA][5] the dwarf[ Vamana][6] Rama WITH axe[Parasurams][7] again RAMA[ RAMACHANDRA][8] KRISHNA[9] Buddha[10] the tenth advent is to occur at the end of the four ages and will be in form of a white horse with wings [KALKI] to destroy the earth.These ten avatara are rudimentary parallel to Darwin's evolutionary theory .After all how much this idea is parallel to it is verify by scientist.

Troy Camplin
May 28th, 2010
6:05 AM
Ayala is correct: there is no incompatibility. In fact, the Bible makes his final point in the Book of Job -- that the rain falls on the just and on the unjust alike. As we come to understand the cosmos as it truly is: a set of self-organizing, increasingly complex emergent systems, it does indeed take on theological aspects. The future can speak to you if you let it and listen for it -- what is that, but the voice of God?

John Dale
May 26th, 2010
6:05 PM
So what you're basically saying is that you can "intelligently design" your superstitions so that they disagree less with the facts. Thats great, but if you do so how do retain any "faith" in the superstition?

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