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Although working-class Britons tend to be much more pro-American than their supposed betters, being condescended to by Britons is an occupational hazard for Americans abroad. I personally am usually spared it because I sound English and am only half American anyway. On the other hand, my accent means that I sometimes get to hear anti-American rants that might be withheld if there were an obviously American person in the room. "How can you bear living there?" I was once asked at a dinner party when visiting from New York, where I then lived. "It's all so Styupid!"

Of course, devoted hard-core anti-Americans of the Left or the Right won't hesitate to tell you what they think of the US even if you are their or somebody else's guest. British anti-Americanism of that sort tends to be far too obsessive and quasi-religious to be held back for reasons of good manners. And when you are confronted by someone who is willing to believe anything bad about America, you are likely to find that rational polite discussion about the subject is not really possible. Mind you, this is also true of American anti-Americans of the Chomsky type who need to believe that there is no evil anywhere that is somehow not the fault of America (or perhaps Israel).

What I didn't say but should have said to the man who pronounced "stupid" in a Pythonesque way is that America isn't really stupid, but sometimes seems so because it is different in ways that you may not understand or find appealing. As de Tocqueville noted, America is an extraordinarily democratic and demotic country in which the feelings and tastes of ordinary people set the tone much more than they do in the UK. (This is one reason why inarticulate men who would not shine at smart dinner parties can be elected president.) In America if a massive majority of people believe in the death penalty, then the dealth penalty remains legal, even if many people in the equivalent of the British chattering and political classes are horrified by it. It is a polity that for historical reasons has often chosen a different compromise between liberty and security, hence its peculiar gun laws. It's a society which has long fostered a sometimes unattractive conformism - including strange Soviet-style rituals like the Pledge of Allegiance - in order to counter the potentially divisive effects of mass immigration, unbridled markets and internal migration. Arguably, those rather un-Anglo-Saxon measures have worked very well: people from the most distant and different societies become patriotic Americans very quickly. You don't find many second-generation Arab-Americans or Pakistani-Americans drawn to violent jihad against their own country. On the other hand, I can understand why the sort of Briton who is attracted to or nostalgic for a traditionally hierarchical society or who has an aristocratic or Left-aristocratic contempt for commerce is likely to loathe American culture.

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Anonymous
January 30th, 2009
8:01 PM
There are a lot of british people who wouldn't be sorry to see the end of the special relationship either.

Lucy
December 20th, 2008
11:12 AM
Although having only visited America 3 times, as a Brit who for 30 years or so worked and lived among Americans in the UAE, Bahrain and Hong Kong, I can be counted among those Britons who love America & Americans. In my experience you're right, Americans are decent, well-mannered, confident without arrogance, and, well, just plain nice! Hospitable, friendly, interested in what's around them - I could go on, but you get my drift.... Having returned to live in the UK I've been bewildered by the strength of some people's anti-American feeling, but you have explained it satisfyingly & articulately - thank you for a fascinating article.

jp.
December 10th, 2008
5:12 PM
Hey we are different places and simplistic stereotype bashing is all too easy. Americans are just too damn over the top (fine in the US but dont get upset about our opinion of it). Your too religeous (the Taliban would run a mile if they realised how quasi religeous you all were). Aint it time you had a top woman if you are so liberal. Blacks have been in the US since the start and are established members of society. Whats all the fuss about electing one a president? They are a new phenomenon in europe and getting themselves established will take time. I would be interested to know how many Americans were in Bangladesh, in my experience they dont get around much. Why does America run the UN? Why are we in the Gulf and not the Congo?

Oakeshott
December 7th, 2008
12:12 PM
Obama has no identifiable ties or affections toward the UK. HIs cabinet is pragmatic, and his policies will reflect this. The "special relationship" between the US and the UK will sound more and more like old imperialistic rhetoric- a relic of the past.

Brianson
December 6th, 2008
12:12 AM
You're right. oddly we sort of consider the Aussies as cool Brits on holiday. Of course NZ and OZ I should have been on my list. Probably a couple of other former colonies too but point made.

Anonymous
December 4th, 2008
4:12 PM
To Brianson: 'There are only two places in the world I would raide my children other than Canada.The UK and the US.' You can add Oz and New Zealand to your list. Two other wonderful countries to live and raise children and in whom you can trust. Enjoy your hockey game.

Brianson
December 4th, 2008
2:12 PM
Canada perspective. There are only two places in the world that I would raise my children other than Canada The UK and the US . So please feel free to trash each other over who is the second and third best places to live in the world.( Canada being no. 1 of course) But this Canuck say's "May God bless and Protect you both" and I'm proud to call you both my friends. Now grab a beer from the fridge and sit down I'm trying to watch the hockey game.

Anonymous
December 4th, 2008
3:12 AM
To Anonymous (posted Dec 3, 1:11pm): You said, "Perhaps the citizens of the USA should look at the reasons we do not trust them. For instance citizens of the UK need visas to visit the USA. there is no requirement the other way around." This is NOT true. Great Britain is one of 34 countries that are part of the Visa Waiver Program. This program has been around for more than 20 years and has been utilized by millions of people, day in and day out. If you consider this one of the reasons you distrust America(ns), then perhaps you need to rethink things a little bit.

Anonymous
December 3rd, 2008
2:12 PM
I think the main problem we have here is the generalisation of both Britain AND America. But I do think it would be fair to say that I don't have a good view of America. The only things I know of America are those from the media, which, catering towards an anti-american Brit is normally negative. It reinforces stereotypes and we 'love to hate' America. I would like to say also that, I have lived in two completely different counties (or states, i suppose) and black people are very sparse (that is America NOT Britain). The make up of these counties (probably a different story in London) has been mostly 'english' followed by recent eastern european and asian populations. Relations between these populations are not strong because they come in huge groups and we do not know how to handle them. The reason they may not become politicians is purely ignorance and fear. We are scared of them, they are scared of us etc. They have the same rights and we are on the road to becoming 'one' community- they will not want to become politicians yet. We cannot compare Britain and America because they are so very different. At the end of the day, why should we care about America when all they care about is THEIR country whilst showing little regard for any other place on earth. They seem to think they rule (or simply ARE) the world. Watch any 'doomsday' film and parts of the 'world' (America) are shown and how each one of them is affected. Finally I'll say that I'll start to 'understand' America/ns when they understand and respect us in return.

Anonymous
December 3rd, 2008
2:12 PM
You tend to use the term anti-American Americans for people that criticize your government or its ideals. By that and only that it is clear you have no idea what America stands for and should be for the world, even though you claim to be one. Your idea of patriotism is a frightening one and will continue to spook us Europeans.

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