CM: Yes, on this I'm in complete agreement. And on top-slicing, this goes back rather amusingly to the argument about the established Church. When people started to think whether they should disestablish the Church of England in Ireland and Wales, somebody proposed that instead of disestablishing it they should establish other Churches as well. So they would give money out to the Presbyterians and Methodists and Catholics. Then you'd get even more ecclesiastical snouts in the trough. That's what top-slicing is — not only the BBC, but every bloody broadcaster who claims to have a public service element to it will just grab more of it.
CB: I fear that the government is going to fail to deal with the crippling problem of ITV, which is in serious decline. It needs to be much bolder. It has to say to ITV that the good old days of having a public service broadcasting obligation in return for a quasi-monopoly or dominant position are over, and that ITV must do whatever it needs to survive.
CM: We come back to the point where we started really: that the game's up for the BBC as well. And it's Recessional: "The tumult and the shouting dies / The Director-Generals and the Kings depart." It's just a matter of time, and when we look back at it we'll see there were some good things about it, but we'll also see that it was pretty hard to defend, and impossible to maintain.
CB: No, you're absolutely wrong. We will feel nothing but regret, if this gloomy recessional event takes place and mourn the fact that we've lost a really remarkable baby with Charles's bathwater.
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