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CM: Yes, on this I'm in complete agreement. And on top-slicing, this goes back rather amusingly to the argument about the established Church. When people started to think whether they should disestablish the Church of England in Ireland and Wales, somebody proposed that instead of disestablishing it they should establish other Churches as well. So they would give money out to the Presbyterians and Methodists and Catholics. Then you'd get even more ecclesiastical snouts in the trough. That's what top-slicing is — not only the BBC, but every bloody broadcaster who claims to have a public service element to it will just grab more of it. 

CB: I fear that the government is going to fail to deal with the crippling problem of ITV, which is in serious decline. It needs to be much bolder. It has to say to ITV that the good old days of having a public service broadcasting obligation in return for a quasi-monopoly or dominant position are over, and that ITV must do whatever it needs to survive.    

CM: We come back to the point where we started really: that the game's up for the BBC as well. And it's Recessional: "The tumult and the shouting dies / The Director-Generals and the Kings depart." It's just a matter of time, and when we look back at it we'll see there were some good things about it, but we'll also see that it was pretty hard to defend, and impossible to maintain.

CB: No, you're absolutely wrong. We will feel nothing but regret, if this gloomy recessional event takes place and mourn the fact that we've lost a really remarkable baby with Charles's bathwater. 

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jose
December 22nd, 2009
4:12 AM
is that guy trying to demostrate the BBC is not liberal?

Sue
October 15th, 2009
11:10 AM
When are so called conservatives going to stand up and speak the truth to and about the likes of Russ Limbaugh and the other raving-loonies who are now the public face of the GOP in the USA.

Valentinus
October 12th, 2009
10:10 PM
IIt is always much better when Charles Moore's strange views about the BBC are out in the open rather than working corrosively and without scrutiny to undermine public service broadcasting. When he is subject to proper examination, the transparent ideological bias of his position is routinely and drearily exposed. There is a simple task for Charles Moore: Charles, close thy Telegraph and open thy Radio Times. Do what I do. Take about 1 hour on a Saturday morning and look, just look, at what you get for your license fee over the course of 7 days. Then look us straight in the eye and try telling us that we can get this cornucopia of culture, sport, news, drama, music, current affairs and entertainment for anything like that cost base and efficiency. In fact, Charles, we can't get it at all, even if we paid ten times the license fee. My father pays the equivalent of my license fee for three months of a couple of Sky Sports and movie channels, nothing more. I might have said the equivalent of HIS license fee, but he is over 75 and gets the BBC (all of it) for nothing. Yes, nothing. And you know? Two thirds of what he watches, listens to and enjoys never comes near me. And three quarters of what I watch, listen to and enjoy never goes near him. Welcome to the BBC. I have noticed, in short, a common thread among anti-BBC ideologues: they don't actually know what's on. This seems a curious position from which to attack anything and explains why they need daft episodes such as L'Affair Ross on which to hang their opposition. I do wonder if guys like Charles actually know this deep down and that's why they evade it. For dull cultureless people with year-round tans like the Murdochs it is in a sense a much more honest conflict: their implacable hatred of the BBC originates in the obstacle public sector broadcasting presents to the expansion of their wealth and global power. But my advice to Murdoch Junior would be the same: close they Friedman, open thy Radio Times. I guarantee you'll find something to assuage the unbearable lightness of being. And it will probably cost you about 14p. As for the rest of the so-called argument? Bring it on.

IC
September 27th, 2009
5:09 PM
It is not surprising that the BBC's head of comedy is gloomy. Most BBC "comedy" programmes nowadays are puerile or revolting, without wit or humour - compare these with the shows that the BBC used to make, or the sharp US comedies shown on other channels.

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