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But many gay Muslims live in a largely invisible world, one which can be fraught with conflicts between two aspects of their identities. A study of gay British Pakistani Muslims, published earlier this year in the British Journal of Social Psychology, found that some saw their homosexuality as a test from Allah, some believed the religious texts had been misunderstood, others blamed their British upbringing, but most of them expressed guilt, the desire to stop and the hope to marry women. Said one of the participants (who, again, were all given anonymity): "I'm gay 'cos I was brought up here (in Britain) but I reckon if I'd been brought up in Pakistan, then I would have turned out straight because this doesn't happen that much there." 

Multiculturalist white liberals, whose belief in the virtue of "celebrating diversity" has taken on the characteristics of some sort of fetish, could probably not bring themselves to point out the ridiculousness of that statement. And this in turn exposes the contradictions which were always there, bubbling away, in multiculturalism: how or why should you celebrate a culture which sees you as morally unacceptable? Why should you try to "understand" and adapt?   Could we, quite soon, be in a position where certain areas of our cities are off-limits for gay men? And, hobbled by the requirement above all to be "sensitive", will we simply go along with it? The last word goes to Bruce Bawer, who also wrote Surrender: Appeasing Islam, Sacrificing Freedom (Doubleday, 2009). "Open your eyes," he says, "stop being cowed by political correctness, and speak up." 

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Jackie
November 1st, 2010
11:11 PM
Justin - That's horrific. I hope that people have changed. If not, then I hope that the teachers now would have the guts to stand up and do something about it. Anonymous - I completely agree with your statement: "lso if there's 10 people at a bustop the fact that 7 of them don't want to kill you is irrelevant if they're not going to do anything to stop the 3 that do. " Cultural relativism is all well and good in theory but liberal people have to start realising that being uncritical of minority cultures is going to see human rights being attacked in a way these liberal people claim to abhor. I consider myself liberal but we can't just pretend that all cultures are okay just because they are also repressed.

Justin
June 6th, 2010
11:06 AM
That's nothing. Back in 1996 I was working at a secondary school in Oldham that was predominantly composed of Bangladeshi students. The students discovered that a physics teacher was Jewish and so they mounted a campaign to systematically wreck his lessons until he resigned. It went on for several weeks and before long every member of staff knew about it but no-one did anything. The 'left-wingers' on the staff backed the kids because they were 'black' and he was 'white' . Before long he did resign. The kids made it clear they would do the same to any other Jewish teacher, and that they loved Hitler and the Nazis BECAUSE they slaughtered the Jews. Perhaps they have changed now.

SirRighty
May 17th, 2010
7:05 PM
Lefty, So basically, you oppose everything and everyone because you want everyone to adhere to your way of thinking which in itself is totalitarian which means you oppose yourself? What a shitty day your birthday must be. Muslims aren't the problem, you are.

MrLefty
May 15th, 2010
10:05 PM
No dilemma at all. Lefties support the person being persecuted and marginalised. We oppose muslim communities oppressing and discriminating against gays just as much as we oppose anyone else oppressing and discriminating against gays. Or as much as we oppose a majority culture oppressing and discriminating against a minority one. There's no conflict at all. If muslims choose to oppress gays, then we oppose them. If christians choose to oppress muslims, then we oppose them. If some hypothetical group started oppressing christians, we'd oppose them. It's not rocket science.

Anonymous
May 13th, 2010
8:05 PM
Dr Munford. I applaud you for your hard work but nevertheless feel you're pissing in the wind with that one, and there is one hell of a storm coming. To challenge homophobia in Muslims is to challenge the Quran. To challenge the Quran is to challenge the word of God...good luck with that.

Dr John Munford
May 12th, 2010
9:05 PM
I'm a gay psychologist who ran a training project for 16-18 year olds in Brick Lane (80% of whom were Bengali Muslims) in Brick Lane from 2001-05. Peter is dead right about the pusillanimous response to Islamist homophobia from the Left Liberal establishment and its roots in cultural relativism. But I'm more optimistic about the likely efficacy of challenging homophobia amongst Muslim kids born here, having worked with them and done so successfully myself. It's a mistake to reduce people to their stated religious identification or ethnicity - that's precisely the problem with identity politics and multi-culturalism.

Anonymous
May 11th, 2010
7:05 PM
Jordan, Perhaps you have misunderstood or not read the above article? There is NOTHING typical about that Muslim family - I repeat NOTHING. Take a walk in a muslim area, see how many women walk along without wearing the hijab, burkha, nicab or any other vile sign of oppression. The man would be in serious danger of becoming a victim to an honour killing (which are on the rise in this country)and would WITHOUT DOUBT be disowned immediately by that loving family and the community that follows the religion of "peace". If the BBC truly wanted to be brave, they should show a typical muslim family and a typical muslim response which I assure you would be frighteningly different to that rose tinted tosh they put out.

Jordan
May 10th, 2010
5:05 AM
I love the current Eastenders story line about the gay Muslim. It's very brave of them to show how a typical British Muslim family might react to the coming out of a gay son - with disgust and shame.

Frank Lee
May 6th, 2010
2:05 AM
As an American, I ask that Britons and other Europeans address this problem now rather than expect America to welcome you when your own culture becomes unlivable, owing to your cowardice. And, no, we are not all in this together: your condescension and general rudeness to Americans has alienated us fully. If you must, emmigrate to Australia or Canada, but do not expect to come to America: we do not want your defeatist multicultural nonsense here--we've got enough of our own to contend with.

alex preston
May 5th, 2010
8:05 AM
Why don't you write about lesbians and gay men? Why just gay men?

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