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But it cannot be ignored that it has only come about because of Islams One and Two. It has not found a formal, or theologically permissible way in which to float free from its roots even though certain individuals may have accomplished that in practice. It is in the disconnect between Islams One and Two and Islam Three that the future of Islam as a whole will be decided. 

If Islam Three breaks away from the first two Islams, the problems of Islamic integration into the West can plausibly be solved. But the moorings are tough to break away from. They have a gravitational pull which will probably always exist and remain strong. Added to that, loath though most people are to admit the fact, in Britain and certainly around the rest of the world today, the nice neighbour, chiropodist or friend does not have control of their religion. They are not the ones with the power. That is in the hands of the worse people. An additional problem of discussing Islam at all comes from the fact that when people speak about Islams One and Two people's minds tend to wander inevitably to Islam Three. When they hear troubling talk about "what Muslims believe", or "what the Koran says", they think: "That can't possibly be. I know Mr X or young Mr Y."

One reason for this is that the higher up the ladder of authority people go the more they must adhere to the principles in Islam One and Two, the closer they must be to the heart of the problem and the less wiggle-room they have to get on with their lives. This looks likely to remain a very significant problem. And it is an arm-lock which Islam's founder appears to have considered well.

In a surprisingly frank interview on Egyptian television earlier this year the leading Muslim Brotherhood cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi made an extraordinary admission. Defending the laws of apostasy (by which Muslims can be killed if they leave the religion), Qaradawi said: "If they [Muslims] had got rid of the punishment for apostasy, Islam would not exist today." He is almost certainly right. The higher up someone goes and the more visible they are, the more any heresy can be noticed and punished, which is the reason the most extreme keep floating to the top. The less extreme, let alone the outright anti-extreme, tend sensibly to keep their heads down.

In the West today, more so than in the rest of the world, there is a large number of people identified as Muslims who are probably not believers of any serious kind. Yet even when there is no fear of immediate punishment there remains the pull and tug of the tradition. I know, because I have met and spoken with many of them. Even the most liberal can be defensive when they feel, for instance, that Islam is "under attack". Those who are able to exit entirely are very few indeed. For these people, leaving Islam is not like rebelling against the Christianity of your parents. True, there is a growing number of semi-prominent figures in Britain and Western Europe who now identify themselves as "ex-Muslims", but few have escaped at least some threat of death for their actions. Most that I know of who have managed to make the leap have done so because they have a circle of people around them who are also non-believers, of all backgrounds. I can think of few if any openly non-believing Muslims, let alone ex-Muslims who are critical of the faith who live in predominantly Muslim areas. Muslims who have converted to Christianity in the UK have often had to move from their homes. The pressure of crowds is very great. The pressure of crowds exerting what they believe to be divine will is greatest of all. These problems of the pull of Islam even within fairly secular surroundings is a problem Britain and Europe have now inherited.

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Hegel`s Advocate
November 11th, 2013
4:11 PM
Mustapha Kyati of the Situationist Intenational published a concise idea for the radical transformation of Islam "from within": Burn Your Own Koran In A Public Place. I would add "And burn any copies of the Arabic translations of Hitler`s book Mein Kampf while you`re at it." Islam has no soul.Nor is there any "religious feeling" in Russia that Pussy Riot artists could have offended. It`s just the corrupt Kremlin mafia (ideology) getting paranoid and emotionally sadistic with women artists. Support Femen Art too. There`s a photo (artwork)on the femen website of a happy looking elder Roman Catholic nun (a real one) with her arms around two topless femen activists after a protest in St Peter`s Square,Rome. I don`t know if Pope Francis would be this convivial but who knows? The PC secularists are no use even to themselves. The atheists/believers/feminist movement led by Sister Teresa Forcades (Catalonia)has not been invited to the Vatican yet.

Abulhaq
November 6th, 2013
7:11 PM
Islam is certainly different. Would an Islamic England, not unthinkable, have theatres, opera, orchestras, libraries even art? Would cultural life revolve entirely around the religious? We know night-life would be very sober and unexciting compared to now. If salafism became normative in such an England minorities would certainly be in for a hard time. Perhaps only another religion, orthodox Catholicism?, is capable of stopping this islamization-by-stealth process in its tracks as PC secularism seems reticent.

Anonymous
November 5th, 2013
3:11 PM
I admire Douglas Murray tremendously. Few intellectuals in Britain possess his moral and physical courage. I think however that the title of his incisive essay indicates that his perspective is somewhat wrongheaded. The ‘soul of Islam’ is not ours to lose. My thesis is simple: any lasting change in Islam can only come from within. The ‘Religion of Peace’ (said with heavy sarcasm) is the bane of our time. The 20th century was nearly destroyed by political totalitarianism in the form of Communism, Fascism and Nazism. The 21st century risks being turned into a wasteland by Islamofascism. Political and religious totalitarianism rolled into one. Due to (principally) Labour’s calamitous immigration policies between 1997 and 2010, we will tragically find out ourselves whether ‘demographics is destiny’ – or at least those of us unfortunate enough to live into the fourth or fifth decades of this century. Only an Islamic Reformation and Enlightenment – from within – can change Islam. Sadly Murray’s essay and the writings of others like Raymond Ibrahim indicate that such an evolution is exceedingly unlikely. Tragically this century might see the death of the Enlightenment West and the birth of a cultural Frankenstein’s monster: Eurabia.

Michael22
November 5th, 2013
1:11 PM
Ibrahim you are wrong saying this. Khomeinism, Salafism and Wahhabism have a long history of terrorism, radicalism and violent fundamentalism since 13th century at least. So you can not say that "Dougla's learning" was biased.

Hegel`s Advocate
November 4th, 2013
10:11 PM
Anonymous is very welcome to stay outside my "pop psychology" ! Is `Anonymous` actually Naom Chomsky ? He does a good imitation of Chomsky at his worst.

James K
November 4th, 2013
5:11 PM
@charles soper "Theological demolition ought to be part of the solution." I agree. The Salafists want to restore the jihad and fighting spirit of the Muslim conquests, but the tragedy is that the story of the conquests is a myth. The same research suggests that "the historical Mohammed" was not the figure painted by Islamic tradition, and might not even have existed. Paradoxically, the very weakness of Islam's historical underpinnings will make it hard for Muslims to renounce them. If research showed only that the Islamic conquests were a myth, and therefore Salafism a fraud, a lot of Muslims would breathe a sigh of relief and continue practicing "Islam Three" (as the author calls it). However, I am not sure that the message would be accepted if it includes the non-existence of Mohammed himself - it might come across more as an affront than a work of theology. http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/50219 http://www.amazon.com/Did-Muhammad-Exist-Inquiry-Obscure/dp/161017061X

James K
November 4th, 2013
5:11 PM
The problems are most certainly not beyond the control of the political classes. Most of the 70% increase in our Muslim population in the last 10 years came from immigration. We *will* stop most immigration from Muslim countries - the only question is, do we do it now, or do we wait until Muslims form 30% or 40% of our population? The immigration of Muslims to the West, and their radicalisation, are parts of Saudi foreign policy. Our economy needs cheap energy, notably Saudi oil. We do more or less what the Saudi royal family want - and, since the siege at the Grand Mosque in 1979, the Saudi royal family has had to do what the radicals want. We are literally giving away our countries in return for the cheap oil that gives us a comfortable life; and the deliberate inaction of our politicians is simply a part of that Faustian bargain. http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/us-government-protection-of-al-qaeda-ter... 500 years from now, historians will compare the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the West with the Atlantic slave trade. African kings sold their people for what history books describe as "trinkets": often consumables such as gin that would let them lead a more comfortable life. We too are exchanging our countries for a consumable - crude oil.

Michael Taylor
November 3rd, 2013
2:11 PM
Excellent piece. Part of the problem is the framework of political discourse around all acts of Islamic terrorism in this country. A rush to find the extreme right reaction and condemn that as an appeal for calm. It happened after Lee Rigby's murder, which became a polarised race to condemn the opportunism of the EDL, without pausing to consider why the EDL came into being in the first place.

Anonymous
November 3rd, 2013
10:11 AM
"Hegel`s Advocate"- what you wrote was the most incoherent load of gibberish I've read all day. "Dialectical Materialism" and "revolutionary materialism" are ideological constructs of the "Kremlin" before liberalization of the 90's. Zizek is a self-styled "leninist"- named after guy who made the "Kremlin" the seat of Russian power. What does Pussy Riot have to do with anything? What are they the only people in the world in jail for disorderly conduct? Oscar Wilde,Mae West or Duchamp- what?! I'm not even going to go in to your pop psychology.

Anonymous
November 3rd, 2013
4:11 AM
If people weren't so in denial about the problem, the following measures could be implemented: Confine immigration from Muslim majority countries to conscious, avowed progressive Muslims, ex Muslims and religious minorities. Take a clue from China and tax parents on the number of children they bear, starting with the second child and progressively more for those that follow. This would disproportionately affect Muslims, but since racial background would not be considered, the usual charges of racism might be avoidable. Get rid of the idea that immigrants without citizenship, should have the same rights as others. They should be on probation. If any show signs of not fitting into the more evolved values of Western civilization, whether it be family size or tolerance, you should be able to deport them. Citizenship should not be available until the third generation. In the Middle East, the the partition idea should enter the conversation. Religious minorities would fare better if they had their own state. Western policy should put oil and other economic concerns behind helping whatever liberal elements they can find. Energy independence would deny billion of petrodollars to Wahhabists, and Khomeniists who have used this money to promote extremism throughout the Islamic World. The increasing popularity of Geet Wilders shows that Muslim immigration to Holland may eventually be stopped. Britain needs the same kind of politician. The development of a leftism that follows the Euston Manifesto, pointing out the incompatibility of such core leftist values as gender equality and secularism with the corrupt multi culti strain of leftism that predominates would be helpful.

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