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The Habsburgs would have restored order with a mixture of large bribes, expulsions, prison sentences and the odd execution, because they rightly saw that there was a deeper poison in nationalism than in any countermeasure. Their reasons were self-serving, but subsequent events proved them correct. It is obviously admirable that the UK authorities cannot simply let Salmond cool his heels on the Isle of Man for a few years, but those who value the plurality and anti-nationalism of the UK have sleepily allowed themselves to drift into a situation where they find themselves face to face with something seriously malevolent which feeds off fear, misinformation, conspiracy, grandstanding and scapegoating. We have no choice but to be reasonable or we betray our own values, but this is, as so many times in Europe's 20th century, to allow ourselves to be outflanked by more single-minded forces.

Indeed it may well be already too late. It must surely be a nightmare to imagine a Scotland falling into the well-worn independence rut of a week or two of parading figures, giant flags and tiny singing children in traditional outfits, followed moments thereafter by impoverishment, a hostile border, flailing autarky and the ever widening hunt for "enemies within", those who hate and challenge the barely legitimate new state, fuelled by dissident groups in England. This is an absurd vision except that I cannot see a way round it. Or at least, the risks around it seem far too great. No part of Europe has proved immune to nationalist violence — even the dullest regions have been filled with burning houses in their quite recent pasts. Through a miracle of geography, luck, military strength and political intelligence, the island of Great Britain almost alone has avoided this contagion. Nationalism is unappeasable, it soils everything in its path and it has been allowed to cross the North Sea.

If Salmond wants to share everything with the rest of the UK, then there is no need for independence. But this is not what he wants. The referendum is meant to be a moment of chain-shattering change — not just a mild and highly dubious redirecting of revenues to a new state's smirking functionaries. Yet it is impossible to imagine this a happy place, or one which offers any actual benefit to most of its inhabitants. It could in turn promote a disgusting new variety of English nationalism. The SNP will be unable to deliver anything real and will instead create an excluding, under-siege Volk-community, with marginally better crèche facilities. This would be a state  viewed with repugnance by most other Europeans and would be a fantastically retrograde step, one that is being managed into being with slipshod and juvenile helplessness by the "Westminster government" almost as much as it has been whipped up by the SNP itself.   
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Jim Denham
March 30th, 2014
5:03 PM
An excellent piece, taking apart the vacuous and often quite nasty Scottish exceptionalism and cheap populism (posing as some sort of "socialism") of Salmond and Sturgeon. The slightly hysterical reaction of Scots Nats and their apologists BTL here, shows that the author has struck a nerve, even if the suggestion that Salmond's unpleasant "flag-waving mysticism allied to socioeconomic gestures to the Left" (an accurate descrition)as "effectively fascist" is a bit OTT.

Zen Broon
March 29th, 2014
8:03 PM
Not surprised the author's ill-informed bigotry "found few takers". His fevered fantasy that the Scottish independence movement is (or has ever been) based on blood and soil ideology is simply laughable.

tom donald
March 29th, 2014
8:03 AM
The author appears to be recommending "a mixture of large bribes, expulsions, prison sentences and the odd execution" to "restore order" in Scotland. Is "Standfast" a magazine of the fascist right? I'll not be back in any case.

Christian Wright
March 29th, 2014
1:03 AM
So, as I understand Mr Widner's stream of consciousness riff, he believes that in this Island there should be one state, one people, one leader. I didn't like it when Adolf said that, and I don't like it now.

Graham Purnell
March 28th, 2014
7:03 PM
Unbelievable that this man has been to Scotland and can still hold such mad views. That he can say that England has escaped nationalism is bizarre and completely wrong. Much of what is happening in Scotland is a reaction to pseudo-fascist English jingoism. We could vote to stay in the Union and then two years later the English could vote us out of Europe - a distinct possibility. Scots don't want that; we want to be part of Europe. Did the author fall asleep in 1975 and awake like Rip van Winkle just yesterday? Has he heard of UKIP and Mr Farage? This terrifying English nationalism is anathema to the vast majority of Scots and we are really worried that he may be a power-broker in a future coalition government. I see a vote for independence as an escape from Westminster politics that has an increasingly fascist in tone. Mr. Winder would do well to ponder on the last verse of Robert Burns' 'To A Louse': O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! It wad frae mony a blunder free us, An' foolish notion: What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us, An' ev'n devotion! The pseudo-fascist nationalistic streak of Mr Winder, English in origin, is blindingly obvious for others to see; if only he had the power to see it himself.

Neil Ford
March 28th, 2014
4:03 PM
Absolutely crazy. Never read such outright nonsense in all my days, Standpoint should be ashamed publishing this drivel.

Gordon
March 28th, 2014
3:03 PM
Clearly someone who should continue writing about all things Germanic because it is evident that he has little understanding of any aspect of the Scottish Referendum or maybe he is just another 'stoolie' to pass gloom and doom in the hope of Scaring the Scottish Voters. My suggestion to anyone, dont bother buy any of his books becuase he clearly doesnt know squat !!

cymrugel
March 28th, 2014
2:03 PM
Absolute nonsense from start to finish - and dangerous nonsense at that. You have stopped little short of suggesting that Salmond be arrested for the crime of leading a legitimate political party in a constitutional campaign for Scottish Independence. You are either wicked, mad or both.

Hamish
March 28th, 2014
10:03 AM
Of all the inane scaremongering articles written about Scottish Independence this one takes the biscuit for me. Simon Winder's entire argument is based on the falsehood that Alex Salmond is a fuehrer type figure blindly leading us poor innocent and ignorant Scots into a dark future. The reality is that the SNP have won the last two elections in Scotland (the last one by a landslide) and have used their 7 years or so in government to show people just how much better we can be when our policies are made and implemented by Scots. Even ardent labour supporters have had to admit that the SNP has managed to consistently deliver and maintain socially just policies like free prescriptions, free education, lower class sizes, the abolition of tolls and not a single rise in council tax bills in over 5 years. All of this has been achieved within budget by simply prioritising what's best for Scotland. Simon Winder's argument that an independent Scotland would be abandoning cities like Newcastle is possibly the most idiotic but also most offensive one used by the no campaign. Westminster governments have been abandoning Scottish towns and cities for centuries (if you don't believe that then look at life expectancy in Glasgow which happens to be the UK's third largest city). On a more general note, this article teeters on the brink of being illegal in my opinion. It clearly tries to establish a link between Alex Salmond and extremist Nationalist Socialists (the Nazis), a common tactic used by morons who cannot cope with the fact that independence for Scotland may actually become a reality and their little tartan playground isn't going to be there for them anymore.

Cameron Edwards
March 28th, 2014
7:03 AM
Rarely have I read such misinformed, inaccurate nonsense - Mr.Winder has very little grasp of reality here, let alone an idea of modern Scotland, Independence and the SNP.

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