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It is possible, in the years ahead, that Islam will become something it has not been in 1,400 years. But it is unlikely. If Islam continues its backward direction or even if the current grip of the Islamic conservatives remains, Muslims in the West are going to continue to feel an increasing and deeply painful pull on their identities. In that situation Europe could go in a number of directions. Setting aside alarmist predictions of civil strife, it seems far more likely to me that what we will see developing in our societies will be people leading neighbouring but parallel existences and inhabiting increasingly different cultures under the roof of a splintered country. Those who wish to live strictly religious lives will probably always be able to find a community. And if the rest of us are endlessly told that we must accept the differences that migration has brought, we will have to make a simple calibration. Yes, it will be true that we will have access to a greater variety of food, languages and cultures than we had half a century ago. And we will have to get used to the downside that there will be more forced marriage, female genital mutilation and beheading than there used to be. My suspicion, not to be too flippant, is that a lot of people, especially those in positions of power, have already made their peace with that deal. There is no plausible reason, if they have not, why so much attention is paid to muffling those voices who raise criticisms of Islam and so much help given to those often highly regressive figures who carry water for the fundamentalists.

Britain will continue to have certain types of problem. The glimpses of school life in Blackburn and Birmingham are one type. There may be tinkering, and lone voices speaking out against such developments, but there will be no significant force from inside or outside Islam persuading Muslims that the path of segregation and separation denoted by the veil is wrong. Our politics will inevitably follow the same sectarian lines. Already there are stories — I know of two cases, from different political parties — where Jewish candidates have not been chosen to contest certain parliamentary seats because the proportion of local Muslims is too high. With one in ten young Britons being Muslim, there is already a change in the pressures on politicians. What will it be like when it is two in ten? Will some of our closest political alliances survive?

The best we may be able to hope for is the right to pursue the type of British lives that our ancestors lived. You can see this, in rural and other communities in Britain where the concerns of the global battle for Islam, even when they are in a nearby town, appear to be thousands of miles away. There will, of course, be those who can do nothing about this — born into poorer backgrounds and unable to pick or choose who their neighbours are. These people will continue to live on the faultlines of the problem. As the recent history of the English Defence League may have shown, any non-Muslim, grassroots yet non-racist resistance to Islamic extremism may well be impossible. Perhaps such people will accept that fact and accept their lot. Perhaps they will not.

In any case, it certainly appears to have become the view of the British governing class that, if there is a problem within or from Islam it is beyond the control or influence of the political class, let alone any single here-today gone-tomorrow politician. The pretence is now so strong that it is assumed that Islam is like all other religions, that suspicion of Islam is as dangerous as suspicion of any other religion. In short, they have tried to treat Islam like any other faith. And the problem is that it is not. Not just because Islam behaves in significantly different ways from other faiths, but because at the very point  that it is swiftly growing in our own countries its global direction of travel is consistently regressive. Perhaps it always will be.

As I said at the outset, in the battle for the soul of Islam the extremists tend to win. There may be nothing we can do to stop this. And while the moderates and progressives will still deserve our good wishes and help where we can give it — and we should certainly wish them luck — we must also accept at least the possibility that they might lose. There was a time when this loss would just have been a loss within Islam. At one stage I hoped that the West might insulate itself from the repercussions of this loss. But I now think that hope was wild-eyed in its optimism. If Islam falls over the cliff it will do so in our embrace. Too late to disentangle ourselves, if it falls backwards here, it is now inconceivable that we will not all go over the cliff together.

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AJimnonymous
January 13th, 2015
2:01 PM
Multiculturalism is complete, total and utter nonsense. Islam and the West are two scorpions in a bottle.

Charlie South
January 25th, 2014
1:01 AM
A main aspect is resentment.The World is increasingly being dominated by the ability to develop new technologies and catch up with and use existing ones. India and China have developed little new technology but they have learnt and developed their technological base at an incredible rate. The muslim World is falling being not only the west but also China and India. The software in India is largely developed in Bangalore, which is within the Hindu heartlands. The arabic world, excluding oil exports less than Finland and in one year over 5,000 patents were granted in Israel and only 50 in Iran. If one considers the boundary of knowledge to be flexible then it can expand to hold new discoveries. In 1400 the doors of ijtihad were closed in Islam. one cannot have closed mind,stop deductive reasoning based on observation and measurement and develop new technologies. If one closes the female form in a shroud one cannot produce an athlete or ballerina. If one looks at womens' athletic performances they have greatly improved in the last 70 years. Very few books are translated into arabic yet many are translated into English which enables new ideas to be discovered. The reality is that aggressive Islam is based upon a lack of faith in their abilities .If they had the ability, then Pakistan and Bangladesh would out perform India and China in learning new technologies and catching up with the west. In about 1260, roger Bacon wrote about the difference between Faith and Reason and started the British on the path of empiricism- examination of the facts. In 1258 the Mongols sacked Baghdad, destroyed The House of Wisdom and Islam stopped evolving with regard to science and technology. Both India and China are developing because they have opened their minds.

Anonymous
January 6th, 2014
5:01 PM
Hegel. I would be quite happy to write an article for the magazine. I think you would find it very interesting and informative.

hegel`s advocate
December 9th, 2013
9:12 PM
I actually agree with Anonymous about Islam. Comments here are serious and part of D Murray`s article. So unless Anonymous has an article for publication on the subject (and I don`t) then keep the comments flowing. I`m sure Mr Murray is pleased his article has initiated discussion here.

Anonymous
December 7th, 2013
1:12 AM
What Muslims do is the problem. Notwithstanding how admirably kind and well-meaning and non-violent many may be, ALL Muslims give reverence (knowingly or otherwise) to the memory of a mass murderer, rapist, liar, thief, pedophile, bigamist, sadist warmonger. And to his manual on how to conduct aggressive jihad against the unbelievers. Sorry, the only solution to the uncivil aspects of Islam is the recognition that it is not so much a genuine religion as a hoax scam founded by a vile man for his own selfish aggrandisement. It belongs only in the history books and museums along with Zeus and Jupiter. Fortunately such groups as Council of Ex-Muslims are growing and that is the way forward. In my experience most people who call themselves Muslims are profoundly ignorant of what they think they believe anyway. And actually have Christian vales. So the End is Nigh for this terrible mistake of history.

Anonymous
December 4th, 2013
5:12 PM
Hegel. This article offers nothing but despair, and is unable to articulate a meaningful solution to the problem it purports to identify. Is this really the apex of Murray's thinking in respect of Islam? It lacks scholarly depth, exhibiting no real engagement or understanding of the subject matter, whilst also lacking any evidence of engaging with Islam except through the prism of secondary experience. There are very many critiques to be made of Islam, Islamism and Islamic Fundamentalism, but but it remains notable Standpoint continues to articulate a populist and superficial discourse, as evidenced by the individuals given space in support of this narrative.

hegel`s advocate
November 26th, 2013
2:11 AM
Anonymous is jealous. Who`s paying Anonymous to play total mediocrity ? with Islamist suicide bombers attacking and killing people in the Iranian embassy Douglas Murray`s article is more relevant than ever.

Anonymous
November 24th, 2013
6:11 PM
Oh Douglas, is this really the best that you can produce after '[...] studying and thinking about Islam [...] for half (your) life'? And how much did The Hertog / Simon Fund for Policy Analysis pay for this sloppy mess?

Alfie
November 20th, 2013
12:11 AM
In our equalist society arguments over the "veil" would come into sharper focus if more young males, especially those of the working (or non-working) class, realised they also had the right to wear a veil, or "ski mask" to protect their modesty, or privacy, (or identity) when in public, or in the local off licence etc. Should they be refused service or custom, or be told to remove said item by police officer, would it not be a case for discrimination and a job for the DPP...in a truly equalist society, of course.

Sagar
November 16th, 2013
1:11 AM
The author refers to the migration of Muslims from the 'Indian subcontinent'. Perhaps a fiber split was necessary? Very clearly, there's a huge difference in approach to life and Islam of Muslims of the Indian origin and of Pakistani - for example. There are few names, if any, of the former kind to be found in discussions about Islamic dogmatism. The author would do well to consider this and its reasons in his future analyses.

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